And she’s grateful to have an experienced teammate in Bloom at her side. 

“I’ve got an incredible fiancé who has done this before—he has a 10-year-old son,” she explained on Jimmy Kimmel Live! Though she initially begged off hearing tales from Bloom and Kerr’s years of playing happy family, “they actually helped. They’re like, ‘Oh, you’ve had a run at this. You know how to do this.'”

And in addition to Bloom’s years of parenting wisdom as guidance, she had a handful of her own as de facto step-mom, having mastered the art of early bedtimes.”I used to not wake up until, like, 11 a.m.,” Perry marveled to Ellen DeGeneres in 2019, “and now I’m in bed like a normal person at 10:00 p.m. just, like, falling asleep.”

Plus she got a little extra training while social distancing at home during the peak of the coronavirus with her then-8-month-old nephew and 3- and 6-year-old nieces. “I’m learning to be a mom fast,” she joked on The Graham Norton Show in May 2020. “Kids gravitate towards me through my music, so I am used to them, but I am not used to being woken up really early in the morning by them staring at me from the side of my bed.”